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Tinto's model of student retention

These notes are a very personal view, not well researched, and possibly severely flawed.

The first topic is what determines whether students stay on or drop out at universities. Various terms may reasonably be used for this area. The negative-looking ones are failure, dropout, attrition; the positive-looking ones are retention, persistence. Tinto offers a theory for understanding this. Elsewhere I also have some notes on basic comparative dropout rates.

The follow-on topic is about the school-university transition. In it I argue that this is in fact a sub-part of the Tinto issue.

Some other pointers related to Tinto are on another page including surveys related to dropouts at this university, a review of the literature related to Tinto, and a variety of diagrams expressing Tinto's theory.

Contents (click to jump to a section)

• Tinto's model
  • Methodology
    • Common failings in papers reporting studies of Tinto's model
    • Standard possible methodological failings in studies of dropout
    • New methods required
• Beyond the original model: my extensions/interpretation
  • Summary of dimensions
  • The questions
  • Unresolved issues with this scheme
• Liz Thomas: 5 spheres of integration       [Bourdieux. Social capital. Habitus. Liz Thomas' papers]
• Tinto interventions
  • Classics / majors
  • Classic but not easily recognised as Tinto-relevant
  • Other HEI standards implied by Thomas
  • Designing new, ideal interventions
• Where do these models fit?
  • Senses of "social"
  • Why is this synthesis, and Tinto's part in it, important?
  • What practical use could these models be?
• School-university transition
  • Prose argument about this
  • Transition: bullet point summary of my view
  • Summer schools
• References
  • Yet more Tinto-related references

Tinto's model

This is adapted by me from Tinto,V. (1975) "Dropout from Higher Education: A Theoretical Synthesis of Recent Research" Review of Educational Research vol.45, pp.89-125.

Its central idea is that of "integration": it claims that whether a student persists or drops out is quite strongly predicted by their degree of academic integration, and social integration. These evolve over time, as integration and commitment interact, with dropouts depending on commitment at the time of the decision. A first pass might perhaps try to measure these by:

• Academic integration
  • Grade / mark performance
  • Personal development -- or does this just mean a student's private judgement on the value of what they are learning (as opposed to official marks / teachers' judgements).
  • "Do you think you are doing well academically?" (Academic self-esteem)
  • Enjoying your subject(s).
  • Enjoying studying your subject(s): i.e. the study patterns required/requested are or are not enjoyable.
  • Identification with academic norms and values
  • Identification with one's role as a student

• Social integration
  • How many friends you have. It probably doesn't matter whether you fit with the dominant social crowd, only whether or not you have a group of friends you fit with.
  • Personal contact with academics. In fact, it may be that it is important to measure really small amounts of contact: how many staff know your name, smile at you, ... ("How many staff have you had a personal interaction with, however small?" "How many personal interactions with staff have you had this year?").
  • "Are you enjoying being at university?"

Methodology

Common failings in papers reporting studies of Tinto's model

More perniciously, by never discussing the design of questionnaire items, major theoretical issues are ignored. For instance does "social integration" mean integration within that institution, or generally? Probably Tinto meant the former. Yet a student with no friends anywhere, and a student with plenty of friends who however are not enrolled at the same college are likely to show different tendencies to dropout. Scrutiny and discussion of individual questionnaire items is a good way to identify theoretical issues, and conversely eschewing such discussion furthermore makes it likely that no two studies are measuring the same thing, yet are unable to determine this.

Standard possible methodological failings in studies of dropout

Even then, it will be like interviewing people about their divorces: everyone will have a story, but it is a story they can live with, scarcely a dispassionate account. Rationalisation by each student, particularly dropouts, may mean that what they say about causes is not useful. They will be very likely to describe the cause as external factors (the classic Social Psychology attribution error?). So for this, should attend only to data on external factors, and get it equally for persisters. In fact the Brown and Harris method of collecting descriptions of external factors for all, and getting a panel of experts to rate their seriousness "blindly", may be essential.

Similarly for "internal" and all "ask them" measures of attitude, Tinto integration etc.: we should ask all students before as well as after external events, and before exam results, and before dropouts. I.e. do prospective studies.

SO:

1. Prospective studies, with measures (especially subjective/internal ones) taken before (as well as after) dropout events such as failing exams, and collecting these measures for both persisters and dropouts.
2. For external events (always collected retrospectively), collect these for both persisters and dropouts.
3. Get a panel to assess the seriousness of external events; don't trust subjective assessment. (And hence, don't use dropouts' own opinion on why they dropped out.)
4. Must get 100% or random samples especially of dropouts (not self-selected samples).

New methods required

At the opposite end of a spectrum from statistical treatment of multiple factors at once, would be case studies: looking for cases where a particular feature of the model is crucial, for instance personal staff contact as essential for adequate "social integration" which in turn is an important pre-requisite for whether nor not a student seeks help when they need it. Slightly beyond case studies might be surveys measuring just this factor every 2 weeks (say), then when a jump is seen in an individual's measure on this, following up with an interview to identify what critical incident caused this shift. Such an approach might both operationalise and establish parts of the overall model, piece by piece.

Beyond the original model: my extensions/interpretation

Another notion is Bordieu's "habitus", which Thomas (2002b) explicates as "the norms and practices of particular social classes or groups". For me, the issue this indicates can be construed as to do with how the role of student has aspects to do with fitting the academic institution, with fellow students, and with external social groups and their views of the place and value of students.

What follows is my proposed extension of Tinto or synthesis of Tinto's original model with additional concepts. A further development of the concept(s) might expand the notion of "integration" in the following way. Firstly, consider it as a measure of fitting the role of student. Does the student feel that they fit happily into the role of student? Fit has two aspects: internally, do they feel it fits them from a personal perspective, and externally, do they feel happy in how others view them in this role. Fitting is about any causes of friction or dissonance, even those too slight to be consciously noticed and spoken about. We can see the role as having two major aspects, academic and social. The academic is about learning, and the activities necessary for that. The social is about fit with the groups the student cares about, both inside and outside the university. A person who identifies totally with being a student will care only about their place with other students, ignoring the values of any outside groups; someone who comes from a family that expects a university qualification will probably make friends in the university but also expect family and employers to regard being a university student as an expected and worthwhile stage in life; but someone from a family or group unused to university may have trouble with the mismatch between being a student and markers of respect such as a job, current income, an expensive car, children of one's own, etc.

Another dimension is to distinguish goals, methods, and effectiveness or achievement. Clearly a person may love an objective but dislike some method necessary to achieving it: may like writing essays but be bored by the preparatory reading (or vice versa), just as someone may love tropical holidays but be afraid of flying to get there. Treating the achievement as distinct from the goal is in a way redundant, but provides an opportunity to examine the gaps there can be -- for instance due to the problems of assessment -- between the measures used and the aims they are supposed to assess, and also between a student's aims and their actual achievement. A person can sometimes feel they love a subject and yet be hopeless at learning it. Another reason (for looking at both goals and achievement) is that a person may not have thought much about a goal, yet on failing to achieve it they feel a problem e.g. not getting on with staff or fellow students may not have been an aim one way or the other, but can subsequently be felt as a problem anyway.

The third distinction, between internal / external aspects of fit, comes from the standard distinction between intrinsic and extrinsic motivations for learning: whether you do it for personal reasons (interest, enjoyment, curiosity, "for its own sake"), or for extrinsic reasons (means to another end, to get the qualification, to be admired, ...). But in principle this can be applied not just to the motivation (the goal), but to activities/methods and results. For each activity may have some positive or negative inherent value for an individual apart from the goal, and this may be for intrinsic or extrinsic reasons. For instance asking questions in class might draw dislike from other students (extrinsic negative value), but be useful for the individual in checking whether they have understood (a standard personal learning technique with positive intrinsic value). In general, for methods and intrinsic/extrinsic, we should ask a) are there any things others (staff or students) require of you but you hate (or love); e.g. tutorials make you nervous, computer use is compulsory, hours in the lab are tedious. b) are there any things (learning methods) that you require or find important for your learning, but which others obstruct; e.g. you need to ask questions (but there's not time); you want time to think, but the lecture always rushes on; you want to discuss an idea, but everyone has to leave and there is no place or time to do it.

Summary of dimensions

For each resulting element I indicate one or more draft phrasings for a corresponding questionnaire item. These items may be in an open-ended form (asking the participant to tell us if there's anything that might be an issue in this category), or sometimes specific where experience suggests examples of specific things that have been a problem for some students. Additionally, for some I indicate a remedial intervention (abbreviated below to "fix") that might be tried if the aspect seemed a particular problem in a given context. Words in [square brackets] are pointers to other theoretical concepts.

The questions

• Academic integration
  (We should ask all of these repeatedly for each course a student is doing. Feeling unhappy with just one of the three courses a first year student takes is often sufficient for some to drop out, just as anyone of principle will resign from a job that violates a single one of their ethical principles.)
  "How are you getting on with your studies? What is the worst thing about it?"
  • Goals. "What are your reasons for studying?"
    
    • Fit with intrinsic goals
      "Do you enjoy what you are studying?"; "Is the subject interesting?"
    • Fit with extrinsic goals
      "Is what you are studying useful?"
      "Is what you are studying leading to the job or career you want?"
      "Is getting a (good) degree (grade) important to you?"
      
  • Methods.
    "Is studying the subject like you expected it to be? What are the differences?"
    "What difficulties do you have in learning on this course?"
    [Breen]
    Fix: Put them off before they come and sign up to a course they don't like.
    
    • Fit with intrinsic/existing skills and aptitudes.
      "Does the course exercise things you like to do? e.g. problem solving, showing skill in essay writing, ..."
      "Are there any things (learning methods) that you require or find important for your learning, but which they obstruct; e.g. You need to ask questions (but there's not time); you want time to think but the lecture always rushes on; you want to discuss an idea, but everyone has to leave and there is no place or time to do it."
      
    • Fit with extrinsic/demanded skills and aptitudes.
      "Does the course demand kinds of study and work you like or dislike or have trouble with? e.g. maths, long lab hours, ....writing, ...?".
      E.g. tutorials make you nervous, computer use is compulsory, hours in the lab are tedious. Writing long essays whose structure you have to invent (rather than many small exercises).
      "Are you able to participate in seminars, or are you too shy?"
      "Can you take effective notes in lectures, or don't you have the skill?"
      Fix: Introductory courses, summer schools, before entry, study skills support / teaching.
      
  • Effectiveness.
    [Snyder's Hidden curriculum]
    "Are you learning as much as you want?"
    
    • Achieving intrinsic goals
      "Do you feel you understand the material by your own standards?"
    • Achieving extrinsic goals
      "Are you getting good enough marks?"

• Social integration within the university
  "Do you feel comfortable being a student at this university?"
  • Goals.
    "Do you want to get to know a) staff or b) students and if so why?"
    
    • Fit with intrinsic goals
      "Do you like being part of the university, or do you think it's a worthless institution (apart from giving you a qualification)?"
      "Do you want to get to know other students, or aren't they worth knowing?"
      
    • Fit with extrinsic goals
      "Do you think that getting to know staff and students is useful to you?"
  • Methods.
    "What are the good and bad things about the ways for getting to know staff and students you find here?"
    
    • Fit with intrinsic/existing skills and aptitudes.
      "Does student life go with your preferred kinds of socialising (e.g. clubbing, hill walking, dinner parties, ....)."
      "Does the kind of chat you like to have go down well with students and staff?"
      Fix: "Peer assisted learning" i.e. mentoring by students a year or two ahead.
      
    • Fit with extrinsic/demanded skills and aptitudes.
      "Do you know how to make friends with other students?"
      "Do you know how to talk to other students?"
      "Do you enjoy the social activities other students propose?"
      "Is the kind of chat you find yourself having with other students or staff enoyable or not?"
      
  • Effectiveness.
    "Do you feel comfortable around campus, the department, in lectures, etc.?"
    
    • Achieving intrinsic goals
      "Have you made as many friends as you want?"
      "Are you able to get the kind of conversations you would like?"
      "How many staff have you had a personal interaction (however brief) with?" ["Empathy" in Bridget Cooper's sense]
      "How many other students do you know?"
      Fix: Field trips, reading parties, tutorials, advisors, office hours meetings with staff
      
    • Achieving extrinsic goals
      "Do you feel able to ask staff questions when you need to or want to?"
      "Do you feel you fit in with other students in the class? in the university?"
      "Do you have a problem collaborating in group work as required?"
      

• Social integration outside the university
  "Does having been to this University fit with the kind of person you want to be?"
  "Do you feel comfortable being a student in the UK today?"
  • Goals.
    "Do you want to get on with people outside Uni, and for what reasons?"
    
    • Fit with intrinsic goals
      "When you're with people outside the university, do you feel proud or embarrassed that you are a student?"
      "Does being a student make you feel better or worse about yourself than if you were doing something else?"
      
    • Fit with extrinsic goals
      "Will going to university and being a student be good or bad for you in getting on with people outside the university e.g. family, friends, employers?"
      
  • Methods.
    "What are the good and bad things about presenting yourself to outsiders as someone from this university?"
    
    • Fit with intrinsic/existing skills and aptitudes.
      "My family constantly nag me to come home in the vacations whereas I find it important to stay near the University to catch up on work"
      
    • Fit with extrinsic/demanded skills and aptitudes.
      "I want to get a degree, but my family want me to earn money for them."
      
  • Effectiveness.
    "Do you feel comfortable telling others you go to this University?"
    
    • Achieving intrinsic goals
      "Does, or will, going to University make you fit better into your life outside the Uni.? More the sort of person you see yourself as being?"
      
    • Achieving extrinsic goals
      "Do you expect to get the recognition from others outside the University that you want?"
      "Is being at this university impressive to others?"
      

Unresolved issues with this scheme

Does "integrated" mean:

• Comfortable
• Identified with the role
• Identified with our (expert, teacher's) view of the role i.e. not with their misguided view of a student's role. At least for academic-integration this seems important, as a considerable cause of dropouts can be misunderstanding the role of a student. If so, then don't ask students what THEY feel about integration, but ask them for indicators about whether they are integrated in OUR view.

Does social integration mean:

• Social identity theory
• What a student needs to get collaboration with peers over learning e.g. to borrow lecture notes.

There aren't just 3 points on the dimension of {Goal, method, effectiveness}. Instead there are at least 5 points, maybe an arbitrary number. If so then should multiply out the schema above by 5 not 3 points. The basic idea is that some goals correspond to large external motivations, others are simply means to an end serving larger goals. And similarly, a large method like a lecture requires component skills from the student to benefit from it much. My suggestion for an expanded dimension might be:

1. Goal
2. Subgoal e.g. learning statistics as a subgoal of learning another topic. Learning to touch type as a subgoal of the whole course. Learning mind mapping as a study technique for the whole course.
3. Large scale M-acts e.g. seminars, tutorials, lectures
4. Small scale M-acts e.g. bringing a personal agenda to each tutorial; reviewing notes after every lecture; ...
5. Effectiveness

Similarly, perhaps should split the goal and method points above and multiply all by {(don't know), Know, can do, fit/like}. As well as asking questions that presuppose they KNOW what is needed for methods (say), we should test this assumption by questions about whether they know what is needed. That is, do they HAVE:

• The ability to judge success and their own understanding (under "effectiveness").
• Do they have the right subgoals e.g. realise they should learn new note-taking skills etc.
• Do they even know the methods needed e.g. the time spent, when to spend it, how to get benefit from tutorials, seminars, other students, ...

Liz Thomas: 5 spheres of integration.       [Bourdieux. Social capital. Habitus. Liz Thomas' papers]

• Academic
• Social: peer interaction and mutual support
• Economic. Hence university support services for bursaries, scholarships etc.
• "Support" meaning counselling services.
• Democratic: students's union, student representatives on various institutional bodies.

What do I think of this? well it is true that all of these have typical university structures associated with them, so if I want to explain the LTP perhaps I do need to expand to cover them? On the other hand, they are probably important to dropouts, but maybe not otherwise to learning.

She is interested in a) dropouts b) "widening access" i.e. getting and retaining a wider set of types of student. And argues with evidence that maximising these means attending more to all 5 spheres.

She uses, and partly explains, the notion of social capital. (Her paper gives some explanation of the concept and a number of references such as Shuller & Bamford (2000).) But perhaps it actually isn't necessary except broadly to think of this broader set of spheres, and the general idea (already in Tinto) that weakness for a student in one can be compensated by strengths in others. But in fact maybe her data (Thomas; 2002b) really partly goes against this: i.e. she found that money wasn't an important reason for persistence or dropout, and so isn't the same kind of predictor as, say, social integration.

Social capital (seems to) mean: prior acquisition of contacts substitutes to some extent for present knowledge. This is both learning but also actually connection to people/resources i.e. not just internal learning but connection. Actually consistent with Unix expertise: you can substitute knowing how to learn for already having learned; and consistent with socially distributed knowledge. I don't know if the metaphor of capital helps; but it is in another way a smple extension of the idea of pre-requisites from facts and skills in the chosen topic to other things.

So what do I take from it?
a) To predict dropouts, we may need all 5 spheres.
b) And they are all definitely about integration (e.g. economic: learning to live on that amount, and this is eased by living with others with the same constraints).
c) "Capital" does signal the advantage of pre-adaptation or prior preparation, and how it can be traded on to solve new problems rather than be the pre-solution.
d) And how it is not just about individual knowledge so much as working contacts: having access to the socially distributed resources important to being a student.

I'm dubious because:
a) The support and democratic spheres don't seem to affect all or even most students; but the others do. The capital metaphor may help in understanding the preconditions for these spheres too to work well; but I don't believe they are so important?
b) The economic sphere affects all students; yet her research apparently suggests it isn't as important in determining dropouts. So Tinto was right after all? focus on academic and social spheres.

There are really three possible views of this:

• Thomas is right, there are 5 spheres needed to explain retention, and all are equally important, with strong integration in some allowing weaknesses in others not to cause dropout.
• Tinto is right, 2 spheres are key, the other 3 only affect some students.
• Tinto points to the key 2 spheres; 2 others are in fact really subdivisions of his. "Support" sphere is really an occasional substitute for friends i.e. a subsphere of "social". "Democratic" again is just a form a few students use for peer and staff interaction. Campaigning is an alternative to going for a beer with friends, and in fact likely to lead to deeper interaction than most bars do. As for money, while it applies to all students, it also applies to all non-students too, and so is no more a specific predictor of dropouts than avoiding car accidents, keeping your liver healthy etc.

Tinto interventions

This is a crucial section because:

• Main point for me of exploring Tinto is to explain these mathemagenic activities that are often put on at some cost by HEIs but don't fit in the Laurillard model.
• Can I think of any new interventions?

Classics / majors

The whole business of school qualifications as preparation for HE. Commonsense says that this is about knowledge pre-requisites: knowing facts and skills that will be necessary and presupposed at university. However it may really be a case of "pre-integration": of giving students previous experience of what the subject mattter, and its associated study patterns, feels like so that they can make an informed choice about what university course they may like and be competent at. A relevant study would be to measure prior conceptions of both subject matter, higher education, jobs, ... etc. as tacitly creating a pre-integration level.

Field trips
Reading parties
Cheese and wine welcome parties

So called peer assisted learning (PAL) or supplemental instruction: student-student mentoring.

Classic but not easily recognised as Tinto-relevant

Feedback: summative assessment information to tell students that they "are" a Geographer or whatever. Rank in the class?

Summer scholarship / working in a staff member's lab.

Groupwork (i.e. organised and made compulsory by the course).
Study groups (i.e. student-only peer groups).
Amount of discussing in L-acts (class, seminars, ...) BOTH personal contributions AND seeing what others think.

Other HEI standards implied by Thomas

Finance: bursaries, scholarships, hardship funds, etc.

Support services e.g. counselling, health

Students' unions. Student representation on committees etc.

Designing new, ideal interventions

• Staff "empathy" i.e. a bit of the personal tutor idea.
• Get students working together (social integration)
• But also, working together on subject content. This is good for study skills, good for personal work-useful skills. And gets some content discussion going which we suspect seldom happens in HE. And good for learning. And good for academic integration.
• More feedback on learning. Actually formative, though at an acad-integration level; though may seem to be summative in technical form. That is: it should tell them how well they are really doing (rather than correct detailed task performance), and so allow them to self-regulate their effort rather than help to correct some specific task or skill such as essay writing. This could be related to Snyder i.e. self-assessment, and also with rank in class, on several different types of measure (shallow MCQ, deep essay, feeling of understanding). Note that in PBL (problem-based learning) students often complain that the staff don't tell them how they are doing yet they enjoy it. This could be that working in groups gives them good and frequent feedback on how well they understand the material as compared to fellow students, and as judged by how well they can contribute to their group, even though it doesn't directly tell them how well they will do in exams.

Where do these models fit?

Senses of "social"

Senses of "social":

• Piaget / individual learning (with social interaction as an external stimulus to internal development).
• Vygotsky: and a generalised sense that learning content comes from "society" / peers, and is specifically supported as a process e.g. by scaffolding.
• Distributed Cognition and theories of the mechanisms by which a small set of people interact.
• Situativity and idealised micro-communities.
• Tinto and specific kinds of integration.
• Weber and explanation by gross macro-society variables.

We could ask, and perhaps even find empirical answers to, which of these levels most determines a student's success (i.e. is it external forces like money and social class, individual taste for learning, or what). However one of the ways in which Tinto's approach may be better than some other ways of talking about this area is that it doesn't align with the simplistic question of whether the student or the university should be "blamed", despite what Ozga & Sukhnandan (1998) suggest. The metaphor of integration is about fit; it is not about one party adapting to the other, but about whether they go together well. Even more than that, like other human relationships (but unlike whether a square peg fits a round hole), integration is clearly the current outcome of a relationship of sequential interchanges which progressively modify that relationship: hopefully for the better. As a student has more successful interactions with a tutor, for example, they are likely not just to be learning a few extra facts but to feel more integrated with positive knock-on effects for instance in how willing they are to ask for further help in future, and to ask for it in a way that gets results from that individual tutor.

Why is this synthesis, and Tinto's part in it, important?

• Tinto is important for a more complete theory of the LTP (Learning & Teaching Process).
• It should explain activities previously omitted from LTP models.
• I've been slow to recognise it myself because technology hasn't often been likely to address it / replace it; though the stuff on email communities in fact should relate to it.
• It might be able to suggest new teaching fixes/modifications.
• It suggests new output measures, besides learning gains and learner feelings: lower dropouts.
• It will require a major new development of evaluation instruments.

• Explain the activities we see.
• Understand a wider range of complaints.
• Detect the complaints; diagnose them; suggest remedies.
• Propose new interventions, or rather a new and wider range of interventions;
• Including perhaps new technological interventions?

What practical use could these models be?

Tinto (1982) has a striking fact illustrated in a graph: that for the last 100 years the dropout rate for universities in the USA has been constant at 45%, despite big changes in the participation rate and amount of public funding. (Dropout rate was here defined as the ratio of undergraduate degrees awarded to the first-time enrollment four years before.) The second world war causes the only big wobble in the flat graph, and yet averaged across 10 years even there the rate is near-constant (because positive and negative blips cancelled out). In the UK and again in Europe, rates are very different, but perhaps largely constant in each. (Thomas 2002b gives the UK rate as 13% in 1982/3 and 17% in 1997/8 after great expansion, attributing these figures to a House of Commons Select Committee report.) Tinto discusses how that implies that such research is probably limited to dealing with social and/or local inequalities, rather than to overall change in dropout rates.

School-university transition

A related point of view is expressed by Tony Jenkins here.

Prose argument about this

I wanted to suggest that part of the issue may be that that commonsense model of school-university pre-requisites is actually wrong for most subjects, and perhaps particularly wrong for computing science. Pre-requisites may be facts, may be specific skills (e.g. integral calculus, debugging a program regardless of language), or they may be still more general: an orientation to a way of learning that suits a particular subject. Facts are almost entirely useless as a pre-requisites in computer science, not only individually but also in the big "lumps" of programming languages and specific packages such as Excel. Syllabuses [?spelling] written in these terms will fail as worthwhile pre-requisite qualifications (even though assessment within and outwith university is usually reliant on knowledge of such facts). Actually, I argued, this is also true to a greater degree than is usually acknowledged in other subjects such as English and Physics. For instance (if you'll accept a decaying memory of how it was a long time ago in England for physics as any kind of evidence), specific A-level material in physics was hardly ever re-used, but the maths I'd had to do was almost all vital from early on, but most important probably was that learning school physics was indeed a good guide to whether I'd enjoy university physics AND to the kinds of skill and activity involved in learning university physics. Thus the real function of requiring school physics in order to do university physics may really, contrary to the commonsense model, not be the explicit curriculum of Newton's law etc. (i.e. of facts) but of getting experience of what learning physics feels like, and so allowing the learner to make an informed choice of university subject. Insisting on it may possibly exclude some who would actually have turned out to be able to cope, but because the requirement has existed for a long time, it disadvantages few.

Transition: bullet point summary of my view

There is no reason to think one subject (e.g. computing science) is going to be just like any other in the matter of what is important for teaching, and hence what is important for school fore-runners to university forms of the subject.

Historically, subjects probably migrate from research down to schools. Part of this is learning how to teach it better.

Should school and HE forms of a subject be coordinated in any way?

• It doesn't matter: in HE you learn far more quantity AND in a different, deeper way, so any overlap is of little matter. This shows up in how seldom it makes sense to offer exemptions from HE courses on the basis of school qualifications.
• HE thus doesn't care about subject content as pre-requisites; though they often care about pre-requisites in adjacent areas e.g. maths for physics.
• School doesn't care as most pupils studying subject S at school will not study it in HE. Their business is to make it interesting and useful for the pupils, not for HE.